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September 27, 2006

Que Viva Espana

Former Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar clearly didn't get the memo. (H/T The Corner) Speaking at conference on globalization this week in DC, he not only defended Benedict XVI, he went several steps further:

“Why do we always have to say sorry and they never do?” Aznar told a conference in Washington on “global threats” on Friday.

On Saturday, European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso was quoted as saying that more European leaders should have spoken out in support of the Pope after he made his disputed comments on Islam.

"I was disappointed there were not more European leaders who said 'naturally the Pope has the right to express his views'," Barroso was quoted as saying to the Welt am Sonntag newspaper.

"The problem is not the statements of the Pope but the reaction of the extremists," the paper quoted him as saying.

Referring to the Moorish conquest of much of the Iberian Peninsula from the eighth to the 15th century, Aznar said: “It is interesting to note that while a lot of people in the world are asking the Pope to apologise for his speech, I have never heard a Muslim say sorry for having conquered Spain and occupying it for eight centuries.”

“I support Ferdinand and Isabella,” he proclaimed, in reference to the medieval Catholic monarchs who drove the Moors out of Spain in 1492.

As the song goes:

Entre Flores, Fandanguillos y alegrias,
nacio en España la tierra del amor
Solo dios pudiera hacer tanta belleza,
y es imposible que puedan haber dos.
Y todo el mundo sabe que es verdad,
y lloran cuando tienen que marchar.
Por eso se oye este refrán
"Que Viva España"

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Steven Barrett

What a great world we live in when the "Religion of Peace" gets a free pass every time its biggest mouthpieces and appeasers wag their accusatory fingers at Christians, Europeans and Americans who have the ("audacity"???) to point out Islam's sordid and sorry history.

It'll be a greater world when enough people of character, including Muslims, demonstrate more backbone and speak the truth. Culture wars aren't necessarily won on battlefields. More often than not, the losers simply lost their nerve before drawing up the necessary courage to state historical and cultural truths.

One only needs to see the recent surrender of the Deutsche Oper to Muslim hypocrites in the wake of protests about "the prophet's" decapitation in Mozart's Ideomeo, which has been put on for two centuries without problem.

It's time to stand up for the superiority of Western values and civilization and state clearly that what passes for "multiculturalism" is really anti-westernculturalism.


Please excuse my ignorance of your language.
I don't understand the point of this post.
Do you think the Bishop of Rome should apologize or not?
I have read his seven page (in Adobe format) speech from which the secular world press extracted a quote with which to incite trouble and sell their news.
His quote was accurate as far as I have been able to find out. Although until a few days ago I had no idea who Manuel II was and I have not been able to find ou much about him.
The speech was delivered in a calm compassionate, compelling voice to an audience of academics at a University where he used to teach.
He wasn't red-faced and screaming for blood.
Again I ask you; what is your opinion?
Please state it plainly without using the quotes of others to give a voice to what you think.
I would also appreciate it if you would express your opinion in English, I could make out some of the Spanish but not enough to understand your meaning.
And please type slowly and clearly :-).

Michael Liljenberg

It's encouraging to know that some European leaders have a sense of history.

Most European leaders, and many leaders and commentators in America have politically correct blinders on that forbid them from seeing the flaws and injustices in any culture other than Western Civilization. On the one hand they seem both afraid of offending Muslims, and therefore running the risk of radicalizing moderate followers of the "religion of peace" and yet, so confident in the inherent superiority of their secular humanism that the "irrational barbarity" of Islam isn't really all the much of a threat. On the other hand they have no fear of offending Christians and consider Christianity as much if not more of a threat to modern liberal democracy than Islam (as recently revealed in the much applauded lines given by Rosie O'Donnell on "The View") Indeed the positions of groups like People for the American Way or Americans United for the Separation of Church and State are that any religiously informed political position will inherently lead to un-democratic theocracy.

I don't want to think the worst of so many people, but when I recall the cheering in the "Muslim Street" on 9-11 as well as the shrill reaction to the Pope's statement. I have to wonder if the lack of public condemnation from "moderate" Muslim leaders concerning the violence of "radical" Muslims all over the world from Darfur, to London, to Madrid, to Iraq, to 9-11, to Indonesia, to the Philippenes, - I have to wonder, is it because on some level they agree with it.

James Jubenville

Thanks to Ferdinand and Isabella. Kicked out the Islamo-Fascist of their day and sent Columbus on his way. (no I didn't mean to rhyme)


By way of epilogue, the Pope's very subtle and learned plea for rational dialogue, which spanned the whole history of faith and reason in Christendom, reflected quite as much on Protestant as Muslim thought. The Protestant community appears to have made no notable reckoning with this other principal theme.

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